Comments on: You Are Nothing But A Cash Cow http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow WordPress Web 2.0 Guide For Social Networks Age! Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:10:06 +0000 By: TheSpot-er http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13708 TheSpot-er Tue, 06 May 2008 13:08:42 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13708 Barbara, I agree but sometimes we do engaged with other people. It is inevetable in Affiliate Marketing, and who would think that a reputable and a well known marketer would try to stiff a few hundred bucks of cash ... I still think it is a mishandling by the stuff but if unable to resolve - I will make sure one way or another that he will hear about it. So a part two might follow to this "rant"... Alex Barbara,

I agree but sometimes we do engaged with other people. It is inevetable in Affiliate Marketing, and who would think that a reputable and a well known marketer would try to stiff a few hundred bucks of cash … I still think it is a mishandling by the stuff but if unable to resolve - I will make sure one way or another that he will hear about it. So a part two might follow to this “rant”…

Alex

]]> By: Barbara Ling http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13705 Barbara Ling Tue, 06 May 2008 12:20:16 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13705 That's one reason why I like Commission Junction so much - they take care of paying all the affiliate commissions so I don't have to worry about it. It's maddening when you promote something and then the owner of the product fails to follow through. Kudos to you for not letting the matter drop. Data points, Barbara Barbara Lings last blog post..<a href="http://www.barbaraling.com/insights/dumber-than-dirt-tell-me-you-do-not-do-the-following-to-your-customers/" rel="nofollow">Dumber Than Dirt - Tell me you do NOT do the following to your customers.</a> That’s one reason why I like Commission Junction so much - they take care of paying all the affiliate commissions so I don’t have to worry about it.

It’s maddening when you promote something and then the owner of the product fails to follow through. Kudos to you for not letting the matter drop.

Data points,

Barbara

Barbara Lings last blog post..Dumber Than Dirt - Tell me you do NOT do the following to your customers.

]]> By: TheSpot-er http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13505 TheSpot-er Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:00:44 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13505 Chuck, I don't see how my bad experience compromises my own credibility. This post was a rant as I have clearly stated. I don't like what I'm seeing but I believe that each of us should make our own choice. In this post I'm not making any recommendations but simply venting the frustration. It is quite possible that person is easier to deal with and my experience is a one off - I'm not going to venture to guess. I can tell you that his affiliate manager made promise to work with me and even requested w9 form (again). So, we will see what happen :D. On promotion - I promoted a free report by that person - not his product - so I have nothing really to be ashamed off, the report was worth every penny, considering that it was free. Will you be promoting product by that person is not is up to you, but I have no intentions of bad mouthing someone based on my personal bad experience. Alex Chuck,

I don’t see how my bad experience compromises my own credibility. This post was a rant as I have clearly stated. I don’t like what I’m seeing but I believe that each of us should make our own choice. In this post I’m not making any recommendations but simply venting the frustration. It is quite possible that person is easier to deal with and my experience is a one off - I’m not going to venture to guess.

I can tell you that his affiliate manager made promise to work with me and even requested w9 form (again). So, we will see what happen :D.

On promotion - I promoted a free report by that person - not his product - so I have nothing really to be ashamed off, the report was worth every penny, considering that it was free. Will you be promoting product by that person is not is up to you, but I have no intentions of bad mouthing someone based on my personal bad experience.

Alex

]]> By: chuck http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13503 chuck Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:52:59 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13503 I think you'd be serving your readers better by revealing the name of the person or company that is holding your money. It would sure be helpful to know which marketers to avoid. It would be a shame for any of your readers to put any effort into promoting them, not knowing about their neglect, when you could provide the information to prevent it. Otherwise, your own credibility may be compromised. A little bit of bad publicity might be just what they need to learn about their own business's weakness. I think you’d be serving your readers better by revealing the name of the person or company that is holding your money. It would sure be helpful to know which marketers to avoid. It would be a shame for any of your readers to put any effort into promoting them, not knowing about their neglect, when you could provide the information to prevent it. Otherwise, your own credibility may be compromised.
A little bit of bad publicity might be just what they need to learn about their own business’s weakness.

]]> By: Zibblu@Internet Marketing Blog http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13420 Zibblu@Internet Marketing Blog Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:02:17 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13420 Im very wary of any one that calls themselves an "internet marketing guru" or the like. Im wary of anyone who only makes money telling other people how to make money. I think the knowledge that these people have is very specific to this one field (and it's already plenty crowded)... Sure I guess I'm doing the same thing with my internet marketing blog - except for me, this is sort of a side deal. I like to treat it more like a diary. <em>Zibblu's last blog post..<a href='http://www.moneymakerjobs.com/market-health-affiliate-program/27/' rel="nofollow">Market Health Affiliate Program</a></em> Im very wary of any one that calls themselves an “internet marketing guru” or the like. Im wary of anyone who only makes money telling other people how to make money. I think the knowledge that these people have is very specific to this one field (and it’s already plenty crowded)… Sure I guess I’m doing the same thing with my internet marketing blog - except for me, this is sort of a side deal. I like to treat it more like a diary.

Zibblu’s last blog post..Market Health Affiliate Program

]]> By: TheSpot-er http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13379 TheSpot-er Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:54:11 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13379 Thanks guys, And no .. I have not dropped the issue. I'm a strong believer that when someone owes me money - they WILL pay. But that is not the core issues here... The post was a rant on discrepancies between what we hear from the people very highly regraded in IM community and what they do, or rather what their stuff does on their behalf, which to me same thing - they hired them, they are responcible for the actions of their employees. And that above one single reason I have not even considered outsourcing support for my own product. I would hate to deliver the value to customer only to have it all destroyed by a piss poor actions of the underpaid support stuff who doesn't give a flying frack about you or the product you sell... or your reputation for that matter. I know I'll get my money but so far it is as predicted - after submitting ticket I got one email with acknowledge that they got it (4 days ago) and no single beep. More then likely it will require emailing support manager, etc. I do know that once I get paid - I'm out of his affiliate program and will not be promoting his products. Thanks guys,

And no .. I have not dropped the issue. I’m a strong believer that when someone owes me money - they WILL pay. But that is not the core issues here…

The post was a rant on discrepancies between what we hear from the people very highly regraded in IM community and what they do, or rather what their stuff does on their behalf, which to me same thing - they hired them, they are responcible for the actions of their employees.

And that above one single reason I have not even considered outsourcing support for my own product. I would hate to deliver the value to customer only to have it all destroyed by a piss poor actions of the underpaid support stuff who doesn’t give a flying frack about you or the product you sell… or your reputation for that matter.

I know I’ll get my money but so far it is as predicted - after submitting ticket I got one email with acknowledge that they got it (4 days ago) and no single beep. More then likely it will require emailing support manager, etc.

I do know that once I get paid - I’m out of his affiliate program and will not be promoting his products.

]]> By: Krishnan@mobile advertising http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13377 Krishnan@mobile advertising Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:52:00 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13377 Hi Alex, It's been quite a while since I visited your blog. I was crazy busy with lot of things. Nice to be back here. As far as the post goes, yes, it does suck big time when you don't get a proper response, especially when the person owes you some money. BTW, have you dropped this issue or do you plan to contact that marketer somehow and get your money back? Hi Alex,
It’s been quite a while since I visited your blog. I was crazy busy with lot of things. Nice to be back here. As far as the post goes, yes, it does suck big time when you don’t get a proper response, especially when the person owes you some money. BTW, have you dropped this issue or do you plan to contact that marketer somehow and get your money back?

]]> By: Monika Mundell http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13370 Monika Mundell Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:17:15 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13370 This really does suck Alex, since you put in YOUR effort and time to promote somebody else business which makes THEM more money. So hell yes you should get paid YESTERDAY. I think that is the problem in the MMO niche. A lot of the so called gurus jump in with each other to promote the crap out of their wares. Instead of the good old fashioned 1 email/week max we get like 3 and often it is about helping to launch X's new product by promoting it to your own list. Personally I don't like this and this was the reason that I unsubscribed from most lists I was on before. In the end it is the missing factor called integrity. Shame on them who think they are above this and really, these guys should be called out because while they are not, nothing will ever change. <em>Monika Mundell's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/thewritersmanifesto/blogfeed/~3/272914915/' rel="nofollow">Freelance Writing Blog Crawl - Round Three</a></em> This really does suck Alex, since you put in YOUR effort and time to promote somebody else business which makes THEM more money. So hell yes you should get paid YESTERDAY.

I think that is the problem in the MMO niche. A lot of the so called gurus jump in with each other to promote the crap out of their wares. Instead of the good old fashioned 1 email/week max we get like 3 and often it is about helping to launch X’s new product by promoting it to your own list.

Personally I don’t like this and this was the reason that I unsubscribed from most lists I was on before.

In the end it is the missing factor called integrity. Shame on them who think they are above this and really, these guys should be called out because while they are not, nothing will ever change.

Monika Mundell’s last blog post..Freelance Writing Blog Crawl - Round Three

]]> By: bloggingzoom.com http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13366 bloggingzoom.com Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:34:33 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13366 <strong>You Are Nothing But A Cash Cow...</strong> You have been milked and your actions were recorded, analyzed and will be turned into next Latest And Greatest Product that will “surely show you How You Can do Same”! And perhaps it is not even the fault of the marketer behind the entire process,... You Are Nothing But A Cash Cow…

You have been milked and your actions were recorded, analyzed and will be turned into next Latest And Greatest Product that will “surely show you How You Can do Same”!

And perhaps it is not even the fault of the marketer behind the entire process,…

]]> By: TheSpot-er http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13365 TheSpot-er Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:26:29 +0000 http://www.howtospoter.com/money-making/internet-marketing/you-are-nothing-but-a-cash-cow#comment-13365 I have no intentions to turn this post into a <b>"guru bashing"</b> session and I even withheld the name of the person used as an example in this post. I do agree that it is a common issue with affiliate commissions when private Affiliate Management software is used. You are often left at the mercy of the marketer and rather sad to see how they manage it. I even seen it on PayDotCom.com because while it is centralized service - your commissions are still paid manually by individuals whose product you sold. Funny thing is - after writing this post I went through and evaluated all outstanding commissions that still haven't been paid to me due to multiple factors, such as: haven't met the minimum, commissions paid every 90 days etc. and I calculated that they <b>ALL owe me a total of $1258</b> While the $487 mentioned in article is no big deal - combined effects of multiple people not paying on their obligations is enough to almost pay my mortgage. I'll be definitely thinking twice BEFORE getting anything paid directly by ANY marketer. All those small prints that state you need generate certain minimum to get paid, wait 90 days and other crap is rather irritating because it is my money and they already got paid on sale they wouldn't have if not for me! Now, where in the hell are My Money?! :D Alex I have no intentions to turn this post into a “guru bashing” session and I even withheld the name of the person used as an example in this post.

I do agree that it is a common issue with affiliate commissions when private Affiliate Management software is used. You are often left at the mercy of the marketer and rather sad to see how they manage it. I even seen it on PayDotCom.com because while it is centralized service - your commissions are still paid manually by individuals whose product you sold.

Funny thing is - after writing this post I went through and evaluated all outstanding commissions that still haven’t been paid to me due to multiple factors, such as: haven’t met the minimum, commissions paid every 90 days etc. and I calculated that they ALL owe me a total of $1258

While the $487 mentioned in article is no big deal - combined effects of multiple people not paying on their obligations is enough to almost pay my mortgage. I’ll be definitely thinking twice BEFORE getting anything paid directly by ANY marketer. All those small prints that state you need generate certain minimum to get paid, wait 90 days and other crap is rather irritating because it is my money and they already got paid on sale they wouldn’t have if not for me!

Now, where in the hell are My Money?! :D

Alex

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